Thread still not closed!

Please do that, i agree with you WW cos 'without solution the problem remain' !

Will be useless contact me by PM seaching 'solutions' cos i still don't know how to 'exorcise' this demon. 👺

Ending before WW burn this thread:

I have 'ideas', but nothing better than following WW tips like 'blacklist' and 'F its', as it is better for the mental health of those who care about their *mental health.

► *mental health, in my opinion, is nothing more than what other people think about 'your mind', who doesn't care about this like me, just go back to your happy imaginary world and leave the harsh reality to those who think they are aware of their own opinions🤣)

To the whole world:

Are you happy? Happy 'with what' as happiness is only a feeling? 🤔

WW, if you don't close this thread i will report this post. :-p

Better to be asking this on HRM? Or just simply find a better vinyl rip or digital source to listen to and stop worrying. Life is too short.

WW

Life is too short and I think I'm next on the frontier. lol

The digital font is cool, but hard to find.

These subsonic frequencies(rumble) appear in many rips,

some are old shares, i can't call for 're rips' after years.

Removing frequencies below 20 Hz is not a solution as the entire song has already been modulated by them.

.😓 Well, at the end of the life I'm not 'accusing' anyone, I'm just trying to show what many don't observe and/or don't feel.

I'm a 'perfectionist' WW and I don't even realize how bothered I am about quality in everything, not just audio.

If you see me washing my cars you'll cry and lose your temper just looking at it! Perfectionism in my case is an inadequate virtue.

Cheers friend" :-)

Lou,

i can't miss rare jewelry made with good will by incredible people,

I have rips(CDs/LPs) from 20 to 25 years ago, some are impossible to find today

► I will try to find the solution, I rarely give up because my job was to find problems!

but.. 'I' am the problem. lol

about emojis:

as example, the emoji after the word 'issue' in your last phrase appear as a empty square(like my bank count) is a square rounded by thin black line.

What? :-? The 'issue' is the problem? yes, can be a chrome issue! (??) 'my' chrome is up-to-date for win7 and 'they' want that i use win 10.

oh yeah? really? Will they want to update the user too?

► They don't have respect to older like me. :-p

Thank you Lou!

My answer then is to stick at. To get rid of noise correctly takes ages because no matter what AI tells you, it's your ears that count.

On the browser front you could try going into a private window.

My pleasure Jorge. (Which one today?)

Lou,

I'm using the 'other' new laptop and i'm will test the emojis now...

oh boy, is working. 😎

😆 ◄ this emoji looks like you, Lou. 😂

You're right, is 'personal browser issue' in my old laptop where is completely disassembled cos i'm changing 'everything'...include the user.😮

..and the ''rumble remains the same", have a 'rain song' full of noises in the background of some rips in VHR, you (all) can hear easily when use 'my way' to do upmixes..

Cheers and joy Lou. :-)

Dear Lou you're mad like me...you are talking to yourself. :-)

Wikipedia defines modulation:?

Wikipedia can be edited and lots of people can write 'his own opinion there'.

We want proves, technical proves, not 'opinions'!

1. exactly like rumble that modulate the entire audio frequencies.

2. My bad(shame on me), the right word is 'rumble', you're right Lou.

3. (i have 'wise' english here, you know ☺)

4. Here is the problem: you (we) have to  defining what the noise signal is in the first place if(and only if) we don't cut the frequencies below ~20 Hz when ripping LPs

5. 'Guess' will be completely useless if(and only if) we take care to cut frequencies below ~20 Hz that will modulate the entire audible audio spectrum.

6. Tell me more Lou, you are close to the solution and believe me, my point of view does not come from any theory, it is practical and efficient as I have worked my entire life looking for and finding defects and errors! ☼

7. Joy Lou, we are here to have joy, this is a wonderful place full of nice people. :-)

The wiki article was text book stuff just as I remembered it from when I studied modulation as part of my telecoms discipline.

The real answer to your question is to invest in a deck that doesn't suffer from noise, then you won't have to correct the problem. 😉

You're right Lou but i'm not treating about of 'my rips', i'm talking about the rips that

I (we all) download from LPs done by very capable persons with fantastic turntable, cartridges, cables, etc.(big 'etc')

I 'think'(a possibility, not a probability) that the cartridges are too good and deserve

to be used to rip a very worse cartridge (lol :-p) or to cut frequencies below ~20Hz when rip (adjusting the pre(with RIAA) or something after the pre)!

off topic

Lou, i don't know the reasons and what can be wrong but,

i can't 'see' the the 'emojis' and, without see, i can't use.

I see only 'rectangles' when i click 'add an emoji'

in the smile face below when i'm writing to post! :-(.

Can you help with a hint about this off topic?

cheers and joy Lou! :-)

Indeed. There is a learning curve, as is there with many processes. Luckily, all can be undone!

Perhaps Jorge could share a visual capture or an audio sample to help us better understand the specifics of the issue.

I wouldn't suspect the cartridge causing rumble, but more the platter.

Unless we are trying to address something else?

I don't agree with both of you (lol), read my next post here answering Lou!

Thank you for nice link , cool lessons ☼, i need to learn(bookmarked )

but think with me:

If when rip is adjusted to 'only' get frequencies above ~20Hz,

the remainders frequencies don't will be modulated by the 'humble'(sub sonic).

It's better than using Denoiser later, but

tell me, I'm an apprentice, I've been an electronics and computer maintenance technician for over 45 years (I know or knew a little visual basic and hexadecimal machine language..don't know if i'm capable to use this 'languages1 today)

and I still have space to learn in this thing called brain!

Please go ahead and tell me your impression of my point of view about the 'problem'.

Thanks again for the very nice link ○..seems a school of Denoise!

"The problem is that if they are modulated then you will have existing harmonics colouring the sound all the way throughout the audio frequency."

►Exactly!

Even if you 'filter',don't mind doesn't matter, you're just wasting time,

the audio was modulated when rip, it's on 'dna' of the audio recorded,

if was modulated and you filter below 20Hz, don't mind,

the frequencies above 20Hz will remain modulateds.

How to take away our stubbornness?

Create lots of audio frequencies in your audio editor,

no need more than 30 seconds each!

40Hz, 100Hz, 200Hz, 500Hz, 1KHz, 2kHz, 5kHz for example.

--> All files have to have the same level.

Mix this frequencies and save as 'full range'(only one file, it's logic).

Now create frequencies from 7Hz to 20 Hz and save as 'humble'

--> All files have to have the same level.

Open the 'full range' and the 'humbe files' and MIX.

save as 'full range+humble'. (only one file)

Open the  'full range+humble' file.

use the filter to remove the humble as you wish.

save as 'full range+humble -humble'. (yep, only one file, same level)

Open the 'full range' and the 'full range+humble -humble' and compare.

►Now tell us about the comparison if the

'full range+humble -humble' is equal 'full range' !

Surprise?